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		<title>By: Shane Ross</title>
		<link>http://lfhd.net/2007/09/15/report-from-ibc/comment-page-1/#comment-438</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emmanuel...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;50Mbps will be a future firmware update.  It isn&#039;t available now, but soon.  HOW SOON?  Who knows? People who work at trade shows can act like Used Car Salesmen at times...saying what they can to make it sound better.  I am just repeating what I was told.  But you are right, in the press release there is no mention of 50Mbps.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The press release also says &quot;The imaging devices used in the camcorder are three newly designed 1/2-inch type Exmor™ CMOS sensors, each with an effective pixel count of 1920 x 1080.&quot;  EFFECTIVE PIXEL COUNT...not real.  So I am beginning to doubt that it is a TRUE 1920x1080 sensor...but probably some lesser size anamorphic setting or something.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have yet to have the opportunity to work with ProRes...and no mention was made of how long it would take...and I didn&#039;t ask...so I didn&#039;t mention it.  Thank you for mentioning it...that is good to know.  Well, then that is something that you set up to happen overnight.  Get everything started and then go home.  And yes, editing the RAW file would be cumbersome...this is why they give you options to encode into other formats.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also failed to mention the ability to edit PROXIES...but I wasn&#039;t taking notes and had to work from memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emmanuel&#8230;</p>
<p>50Mbps will be a future firmware update.  It isn&#8217;t available now, but soon.  HOW SOON?  Who knows? People who work at trade shows can act like Used Car Salesmen at times&#8230;saying what they can to make it sound better.  I am just repeating what I was told.  But you are right, in the press release there is no mention of 50Mbps.</p>
<p>The press release also says &#8220;The imaging devices used in the camcorder are three newly designed 1/2-inch type Exmor™ CMOS sensors, each with an effective pixel count of 1920 x 1080.&#8221;  EFFECTIVE PIXEL COUNT&#8230;not real.  So I am beginning to doubt that it is a TRUE 1920&#215;1080 sensor&#8230;but probably some lesser size anamorphic setting or something.</p>
<p>I have yet to have the opportunity to work with ProRes&#8230;and no mention was made of how long it would take&#8230;and I didn&#8217;t ask&#8230;so I didn&#8217;t mention it.  Thank you for mentioning it&#8230;that is good to know.  Well, then that is something that you set up to happen overnight.  Get everything started and then go home.  And yes, editing the RAW file would be cumbersome&#8230;this is why they give you options to encode into other formats.  </p>
<p>I also failed to mention the ability to edit PROXIES&#8230;but I wasn&#8217;t taking notes and had to work from memory.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel</title>
		<link>http://lfhd.net/2007/09/15/report-from-ibc/comment-page-1/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taken from the sony brochure:&lt;br/&gt;&quot;The PMW-EX1 camcorder offers a choice of bit rates – either&lt;br/&gt;35 Mb/s (HQ mode) or 25 Mb/s (SP mode) – depending on&lt;br/&gt;the desired picture quality and recording time. The HQ&lt;br/&gt;mode supports both 1920 x 1080 and 1280 x 720 resolutions.&lt;br/&gt;The SP mode supports 1440 x 1080 resolution at 25 Mb/s,&lt;br/&gt;which provides compatibility with HDV 1080i products.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It doesn&#039;t do 50mbits 422.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also you failed to mention that transcoding redcode to Prores422 needs 5 times real time and if you try to edit redcode natively even at quarter frame resolution (1K) you have to render even a simple dissolve (and that on the fastest mac available right now). Red is a good camera but is at least 1.5 years from being functional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taken from the sony brochure:<br />&#8220;The PMW-EX1 camcorder offers a choice of bit rates – either<br />35 Mb/s (HQ mode) or 25 Mb/s (SP mode) – depending on<br />the desired picture quality and recording time. The HQ<br />mode supports both 1920 x 1080 and 1280 x 720 resolutions.<br />The SP mode supports 1440 x 1080 resolution at 25 Mb/s,<br />which provides compatibility with HDV 1080i products.&#8221;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t do 50mbits 422.</p>
<p>Also you failed to mention that transcoding redcode to Prores422 needs 5 times real time and if you try to edit redcode natively even at quarter frame resolution (1K) you have to render even a simple dissolve (and that on the fastest mac available right now). Red is a good camera but is at least 1.5 years from being functional.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Andy, that would be nice to know if the disks kept the image at the full raster.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And yes Helmut, it records the new 50Mbps FULL RASTER 1920x1080.  That is what makes this camera so appealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Andy, that would be nice to know if the disks kept the image at the full raster.</p>
<p>And yes Helmut, it records the new 50Mbps FULL RASTER 1920&#215;1080.  That is what makes this camera so appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Helmut Kobler</title>
		<link>http://lfhd.net/2007/09/15/report-from-ibc/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Helmut Kobler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the write-up, Shane! Great to hear a first-person report...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just FYI: I don&#039;t think the Sony EX records at 50 Mbps...I think it&#039;s 25 and 35, just like the other XDCAM HD models. 50 Mbps will be delivered by a rumored new XDCAM model (which also does 4:2:2), but isn&#039;t present on the EX. That&#039;s my understanding, at least....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the write-up, Shane! Great to hear a first-person report&#8230;</p>
<p>Just FYI: I don&#8217;t think the Sony EX records at 50 Mbps&#8230;I think it&#8217;s 25 and 35, just like the other XDCAM HD models. 50 Mbps will be delivered by a rumored new XDCAM model (which also does 4:2:2), but isn&#8217;t present on the EX. That&#8217;s my understanding, at least&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewK</title>
		<link>http://lfhd.net/2007/09/15/report-from-ibc/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PDW-U1 (the XDCAM stand alone reader/writer) is going to be 3k I think (nothing official yet though).  The EX is the only XDCAM camera that shoots full raster (the others are 1440) so hopefully Sony has a way for EX footage to stay full raster when it gets burned to XDCAM discs as opposed to it getting down sampled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PDW-U1 (the XDCAM stand alone reader/writer) is going to be 3k I think (nothing official yet though).  The EX is the only XDCAM camera that shoots full raster (the others are 1440) so hopefully Sony has a way for EX footage to stay full raster when it gets burned to XDCAM discs as opposed to it getting down sampled.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Ross</title>
		<link>http://lfhd.net/2007/09/15/report-from-ibc/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EX records ONLY DATA FILES...if you want an XDCAM disk of this you need to get the Sony XDCAM disk burner.  Model number?  Dunno, just saw it and heard mention of it.  I hope it is cheapesh.  Archiving P2 is a difficult thing to figure out cheapishly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I like the FCP multistation workflow, but don&#039;t like the cost of the SAN software.  I like Avid&#039;s way of doing things, but am not sure I like EditShare&#039;s way.  Seems convoluted in a few ways.  But the 16 seats with no license is a COOL thing.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The MOTU V3HD looks cool on the audio end, but having only the ability to capture as DVCPRO HD means that if you lose lines of resolution (1440x1080 to 1280x1080).  So it would be handy as an OFFLINE resolution, but then to capture online you&#039;d need another box...which pretty much negates the advantages of owning this.  So I hope they get ProRes support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EX records ONLY DATA FILES&#8230;if you want an XDCAM disk of this you need to get the Sony XDCAM disk burner.  Model number?  Dunno, just saw it and heard mention of it.  I hope it is cheapesh.  Archiving P2 is a difficult thing to figure out cheapishly.</p>
<p>I like the FCP multistation workflow, but don&#8217;t like the cost of the SAN software.  I like Avid&#8217;s way of doing things, but am not sure I like EditShare&#8217;s way.  Seems convoluted in a few ways.  But the 16 seats with no license is a COOL thing.</p>
<p>The MOTU V3HD looks cool on the audio end, but having only the ability to capture as DVCPRO HD means that if you lose lines of resolution (1440&#215;1080 to 1280&#215;1080).  So it would be handy as an OFFLINE resolution, but then to capture online you&#8217;d need another box&#8230;which pretty much negates the advantages of owning this.  So I hope they get ProRes support.</p>
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		<title>By: AndrewK</title>
		<link>http://lfhd.net/2007/09/15/report-from-ibc/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>AndrewK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to selfishly say I&#039;m glad yer plane was malfunctioning which forced you to write a very sweet IBC update. :)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve been trying to glean info on the EX and your write up filled in some gaps for me about the camera (Sony USA&#039;s press release doesn&#039;t happen until the 18th).  I know the EX only has a fixed lens, but it looks like it has a very nice fixed lens (the Canon XL-H1 has an interchangeable lens, btw).  I&#039;m exploring tapeless post/production solutions right now and Sony has a leg up currently because of longer record times and you can write to an XDCAM disc and pop that on the shelf for long term storage or ship it back for editing if you are shooting on location.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great news about Edit Share too.  I&#039;ve always felt the multiuser FCP experience was clunky compared to Avids and I can&#039;t wait to play around w/Edit Share to see what it can do.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Last week ProMax came in and we kicked the tires of the MOTU V3HD for a couple of hours and we came away very impressed w/it for what we needed (no time frame announced, but I was told support for ProRes is in the works).  If you want I can give you the name of the rep that demo&#039;d it for us.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to selfishly say I&#8217;m glad yer plane was malfunctioning which forced you to write a very sweet IBC update. <img src='http://lfhd.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to glean info on the EX and your write up filled in some gaps for me about the camera (Sony USA&#8217;s press release doesn&#8217;t happen until the 18th).  I know the EX only has a fixed lens, but it looks like it has a very nice fixed lens (the Canon XL-H1 has an interchangeable lens, btw).  I&#8217;m exploring tapeless post/production solutions right now and Sony has a leg up currently because of longer record times and you can write to an XDCAM disc and pop that on the shelf for long term storage or ship it back for editing if you are shooting on location.</p>
<p>Great news about Edit Share too.  I&#8217;ve always felt the multiuser FCP experience was clunky compared to Avids and I can&#8217;t wait to play around w/Edit Share to see what it can do.</p>
<p>Last week ProMax came in and we kicked the tires of the MOTU V3HD for a couple of hours and we came away very impressed w/it for what we needed (no time frame announced, but I was told support for ProRes is in the works).  If you want I can give you the name of the rep that demo&#8217;d it for us.</p>
<p>-Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was stunned when I heard that too, and I had to ask several people.  Three people said $4000.  But, being in Europe they could have been saying 4000.00 EURO, which is a 1.4 to 1 transfer cost.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I swear I asked and they said dollars.  That was the BIG news that i heard.  But, if you are hearing $7k MSRP US, then they must have been talking Euros...or English Pounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stunned when I heard that too, and I had to ask several people.  Three people said $4000.  But, being in Europe they could have been saying 4000.00 EURO, which is a 1.4 to 1 transfer cost.</p>
<p>But I swear I asked and they said dollars.  That was the BIG news that i heard.  But, if you are hearing $7k MSRP US, then they must have been talking Euros&#8230;or English Pounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Jeppsen, FreshDV</title>
		<link>http://lfhd.net/2007/09/15/report-from-ibc/comment-page-1/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Jeppsen, FreshDV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the report Shane! Are you sure that $4K for the EX1 is accurate? The numbers I&#039;m reading are in the mid $7&#039;s for MSRP.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Matt Jeppsen&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.freshdv.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.FreshDV.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the report Shane! Are you sure that $4K for the EX1 is accurate? The numbers I&#8217;m reading are in the mid $7&#8217;s for MSRP.</p>
<p>Matt Jeppsen<br /><a HREF="http://www.freshdv.com" REL="nofollow">http://www.FreshDV.com</a></p>
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